tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5386390949828958591.post4559981778903174463..comments2024-03-14T05:07:57.110-07:00Comments on Doc Oho Reviews...: The Boy That Time Forgot written by Paul Magrs and directed by Barnaby EdwardsDoc Ohohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01819922630249965949noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5386390949828958591.post-79850002266356240942020-12-08T14:06:01.131-08:002020-12-08T14:06:01.131-08:00I just don't get the hate for this story. It m...I just don't get the hate for this story. It makes perfect sense with the charcters and gives a satisfying arc for Adric, who I've always hated :D Paul Magrs never follows the rules and always ALWAYS provides something completely out of left field. I don't always afree with Doc oho but he's spot on with this one!Alistair.servanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01992512403257233369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5386390949828958591.post-18791612396390227242020-05-08T02:34:45.105-07:002020-05-08T02:34:45.105-07:00holy cow. Reading the old comments I thought I'...holy cow. Reading the old comments I thought I've gone astray into Star Wars toxic fandom. LOL. <br /><br />I enjoy this story, even more than the Haunting of Thomas Brewster. There's nothing wrong about Adric comeback here. Imo, it's barely even a cop out, since I always think his TV death could be easily cancelled in many (Doctor's) ways. My only puny disappointment is the Doctor's guilt isn't really properly addressed in this. There's one moment when he agreed with Adric that his initial death was his fault, it's a nice moment, after the Doctor keep saying that he can't/shouldn't go back to save Adric. Too bad this moment then got cut out by the rest of the action driven plot.<br /><br />Also, if Adric in the show, got more gist like the older, more a-hole, Adric, I'd probably enjoy season 19 and 20 more.Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03834286757867469483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5386390949828958591.post-51188004513808242222019-10-09T11:51:04.883-07:002019-10-09T11:51:04.883-07:00This is a mad story, but it's so well done tha...This is a mad story, but it's so well done that I have a hard time understanding why some listeners are so offended. I've always thought it would be interesting for the Doctor to visit an old companion who turned on him. I never imagined Adric because of his death, but given the relationship he had with the 5th Doctor, it really works.David Pirtlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00636601389899125100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5386390949828958591.post-61416213496131205352016-09-24T11:29:03.361-07:002016-09-24T11:29:03.361-07:00Not even Moffat have the balls to do something lik...Not even Moffat have the balls to do something like this. This is a sick joke.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5386390949828958591.post-8257549298527908392015-10-26T15:14:16.500-07:002015-10-26T15:14:16.500-07:00~GrAnT~
I'm actually considerably more upset ...~GrAnT~<br /><br />I'm actually considerably more upset about what happened to the giant scorpions than what happened to Adric. Seriously, the Doctor just used Block Transfer Computing to travel in time, and it never occurs to him that he could show the scorpions how to use it to escape their time before it collapses. Adric already taught them how to do it!<br /><br />And the Doctor isn't even sad about it! It's a far cry from when the Third Doctor had nightmares from failing to save a world from volcanic destruction. I don't expect the Doctor to always win, and to always save everyone. But I do expect him to try hard, and to be visibly upset when he fails. And I certainly expect his brilliant mind to be able to figure out a solution I figured out in the process of listening to this episode.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14117393669183091751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5386390949828958591.post-27529477862247449532015-10-19T10:52:47.940-07:002015-10-19T10:52:47.940-07:00I'm amazed by all the strong reactions here. A...I'm amazed by all the strong reactions here. Adric spent 500 years allowing his resentment to warp his memories of his time on the TARDIS. Of course he was going to be different! If you spent 500 years in similar conditions as Adric was, your personality is bound to change to some degree. And all this talk of Paul Magrs being mean spirited in his treatment of Adric seem to overlook the fact that Adric ultimately redeemed himself at the end of the story, proving that no matter how much he changed, he still had enough humanity to save his friends and apologize to the Doctor for his spitefulness by retrieving the TARDIS.<br /><br />I don't always agree with Joe's reviews, but he's spot on here.~GrAnT~https://www.blogger.com/profile/00504150209701681346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5386390949828958591.post-71162671597463658732015-10-14T14:20:21.068-07:002015-10-14T14:20:21.068-07:00I don’t necessarily hate the idea of undoing an im...I don’t necessarily hate the idea of undoing an important character death. I’ve liked similar efforts, like “Batman: Under the Red Hood” and “Captain America: Winter Soldier.” But “The Boy that Time Forgot” is a failure, both as a resurrection story, and as a Doctor Who story.<br /><br />I didn’t like Adric much as a character either. I wouldn’t mind seeing a story where he got some kind of comeuppance for his annoying traits. But this isn’t a story where that happens. It’s a story where Adric is given a bunch of completely new cartoonishly evil traits. If you’re going to dump on a character for his flaws, you should dump on flaws that character actually has, not give them new ones. Making Adric so pathetic and evil is just spiteful and mean-spirited.<br /><br />Adric would not try to feed the Doctor to a giant spider. He would not try to kidnap Nyssa and force her to marry him. And he would not be racist against an entire alien species. He says that the giant scorpions are too different from him to ever be his friends, but most of the giant scorpions are psychologically identical to humans in every way! Adric should know this, he’s a giant fish monster that’s evolved to resemble a human. The scorpions should have been perfect friends for him.<br /><br />It’s also a character assassination of the Doctor. Throughout the various portrayals of him, the Doctor has been shown as someone who cares about everyone and will try to save everyone he can. Yet he makes no effort to save the giant scorpions, even though there’s a really obvious way to do it. All the scorpions know block-transfer computing, I assumed when the story began that the way the characters were going to get back home was talking the scorpions into helping them. And I assumed near the end that the Doctor would be able to save the scorpions by showing them how to use block-transfer computing to transport themselves to some other planet and time period where their existence wouldn’t interfere with history. <br /><br />But, no, the Doctor doesn’t save them. He doesn’t even try. I wouldn’t have minded if he’d tried and failed, or come up with an idea to save the scorpions, only to discard it as impossible. But he doesn’t even consider the possibility that they could be saved.<br /><br />Doctor Who is supposed to be a show about characters who win by being intelligent and figuring things out. It’s supposed to be a show that gets its awesome moments from when the Doctor and his companions save the day by being incredibly clever. It’s supposed to get its pathos from when the characters fail after trying their hardest. It’s supposed to have a sense of wonder, not just from the Doctor visiting cool places and times, but also from seeing him comprehend the rules and structure of those places and use that comprehension to save the day. <br /><br />Paul Magrs doesn’t understand this. He writes stories that function on dream-logic and emotion, rather than science-fictional world-building. He’s used to writing literary fiction, but Doctor Who is pure heroic Golden Age science fiction. Doctor Who characters are supposed to be heroic, intelligent, and have agency, not be dim-witted, passive, and broken like literary fiction characters. Doctor Who plots are supposed to be the logical, science-fictional kind of fantastic, not the dreamy, Wonderland sort of fantastic. <br /><br />This play does have some good things. Stuffy Victorians in science fictional situations are always fun, as are the giant bugs. The performances are good. A few of the ideas are interesting, the way the Doctor saved Adric is cool as an idea if not in execution. These make the play listenable. But at its core, this play is just rotten.Evanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15661002375460378958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5386390949828958591.post-85148893141573835912015-09-25T12:51:47.625-07:002015-09-25T12:51:47.625-07:00I would like that Moffat make a remake of this sto...I would like that Moffat make a remake of this story but with Danny Pink as the Scorpion King. He is really an annoying and useless character who I want to see him suffer.Tangohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15180454854103995881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5386390949828958591.post-67364310425464971112015-08-23T09:18:01.647-07:002015-08-23T09:18:01.647-07:00Putting aside personal tastes, there are only two ...Putting aside personal tastes, there are only two stories that Big Finish never should have made, over the course of their long history. This is very much number one on that list.<br /><br />A truly awful idea, horribly implemented. Spiteful, mean spirited trash, that seems to have been made exclusively by and for those who revel in sticking the boot into Matthew Waterhouse and/or the character of Adric, and largely only championed by that self same elements within fandom who always hypocritically see themselves as superior to other fans. This isn't just a poorly forced piece of hollow drama, riddled with cliché and shoehorned full of bad ideas and ineptitude, it's snide, disingenuous, and obnoxious right to its very core. It's like a really awful piece of fan fiction that somehow got made by a bunch of professionals, legitimising it in a way that it frankly never even remotely deserved.<br /><br />Everyone involved in this should be, at the very least, utterly embarrassed, and those who created and pushed for it, downright ashamed. Though given some of those involved, and their own prior form, I'm sure that is very much not the case.<br /><br />As it was when originally released, this remains a permanent stain on Big Finish's legacy, Dalek Master Plannernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5386390949828958591.post-75828028843393207622015-04-18T23:43:21.014-07:002015-04-18T23:43:21.014-07:00My God. And I thought that Moffat was a real basta...My God. And I thought that Moffat was a real bastard by his rectons and not respecting the RTD continuity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5386390949828958591.post-45650134194174270342014-08-08T09:18:49.137-07:002014-08-08T09:18:49.137-07:00Use the Google Translator, that's why. I am Ch...Use the Google Translator, that's why. I am Chilean, have any problem with that?<br /><br />Sorry but I, and many others in the Big Finish forums, consider this story as "The Twin Dilemma" from Big Finish. Others consider it as the "unspeakable" and prefer to pretend that never existed.<br /><br />This story shows why I do not like the Fifth Doctor and Nyssa, both are weirdos. Prefer the Sixth Doctor and Peri in Big Finish, they show more believable and human emotions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5386390949828958591.post-21081412831729213152014-07-25T10:24:27.947-07:002014-07-25T10:24:27.947-07:00Discourteous, grammatically incorrect and ill info...Discourteous, grammatically incorrect and ill informed. The most retarded comment I've had in many a month. Congrats :-)Doc Ohohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01819922630249965949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5386390949828958591.post-18055212563456865322014-07-25T10:22:12.896-07:002014-07-25T10:22:12.896-07:00This is worse than anything Moffat has written. Ho...This is worse than anything Moffat has written. How you might like this piece of shit?<br /><br />Estro.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5386390949828958591.post-58080103174556950112014-06-11T19:57:18.121-07:002014-06-11T19:57:18.121-07:00This story made me distance myself from the Fifth ...This story made me distance myself from the Fifth Doctor stories until the return of Tegan. Although, I confess that I never liked the stories of the Fifth Doctor with only Nyssa. These are very depressing and Sarah Sutton's voice makes me sleep.<br /><br />The story sucks, awful in every way, Paul Magrs disappoint me with this story.<br /><br />Hatred towards Adric, as well to Moffat, I consider it sick and irrational ... Ironically, Adric is a reflection of the current fandom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5386390949828958591.post-44692464645274506672013-04-29T05:32:29.671-07:002013-04-29T05:32:29.671-07:00Well I quite like moments in Zagreus so...
Anywa...Well I quite like moments in Zagreus so... <br /><br />Anyway I thought The Boy That Time Forgot was superb. The Doctor telling Adric to grow up was sublime. As for shtting over continuity? I too enjoy the thought of rigid fan-boys weeping sweet sweet tears. Brilliant. gowellesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5386390949828958591.post-84789301526772666372013-03-30T09:10:36.390-07:002013-03-30T09:10:36.390-07:00Poor Fivey, first he encounters a resentful, bitte...Poor Fivey, first he encounters a resentful, bitter bitch Tegan in The Gathering, and here a more bitchy Adric.Is not surprising that Peters favorite companion was always Nyssa, LOLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5386390949828958591.post-34596569488960358692013-03-24T08:40:16.593-07:002013-03-24T08:40:16.593-07:00THE all time worst Big Finish story ever, just sec...THE all time worst Big Finish story ever, just second to that horrible ZAGREUSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com